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Banging on about the Smoking Ban


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No Voice, No Rights
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H/T Junican and Chris Snowdon for this ONS study:

ONS is developing new measures of national well-being. The aim is that these new measures will cover the quality of life of people in the UK, environmental and sustainability issues, as well as the economic performance of the country.

To develop better measures of the nation's well-being we want to ask what matters most in people's lives and what is important for measuring the nation's well-being.

I signed up (just name and email address required) and wrote my answer to the following question:

What things in life matter most to you?

The simplest of things in life: to be able to sit in a pub and drink a pint of beer and smoke a cigarette and talk to friends. This simple thing brought pleasure and laughter, and allowed networks of friendships and pub communities to grow and flourish within a shared culture.


It's illegal now to do this, of course. And so the happiness it provided, and the friendship, and the community, and the shared culture have all been crushed. With them also, needless to say, freedom and democracy were also crushed.

There was no indication that the above would be published anywhere, or even considered. Still, no harm done by writing something.

It will almost certainly be ignored. Smokers are people whose opinions are systematically ignored. They have no voice in this 'society'.

Chris Snowdon's piece is tagged 'pretend consultation', and he's almost certainly right. The British people will be found to be deliriously happy about everything.

Along similar lines is Michael Kelly's comment on Stewart Cowan's Facebook page:

Stop defending smokers' rights. They have none.


michael kelly


I took the trouble not only to check the Facebook page, but also to find out a bit more about Michael Kelly:

Michael Kelly - Celtic director (1990-1994)

Michael Kelly is a Scottish politician and businessman. He held the position of Lord Provost from 1980 to 1984, and was Lord Rector of Glasgow University from 1983 to 1987.

It's one thing to hear such vicious sentiments from some anonymous online commenter. It's quite another to hear them from someone who has held a number of senior posts in public life.

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"What things in life matter most to you?"

(Anonymous)
While I'm entirely responsible for what I actually do, I've found that other people are finding new ways to claim that minding my own business has somehow resulted in harming them.

I've always known that my Right to swing my fist ends at the tip of anyone's nose. Because I make a point of not swinging my fist too much to begin with, I truly resent the fact that people are now claiming to have longer noses for the sake of hoping that they can tell me what to do regarding my own life.

The least I can ask for is peace for myself, and I'm entirely willing to reciprocate that peace for others. It's never occurred to me that making life worse for someone else will make life better for me.

So, while I don't wish for loneliness at all, I'm willing to accept loneliness as a price if it means that I can't be accepted by others due to fabricated perceptions.

Re: "What things in life matter most to you?"

(Anonymous)
The antismokers are effectively claiming that society is one incredibly-huge proboscis-type organ – and an antismoking one at that!

And the antismokers squeal: “No-one has a right to smoke!” Actually, smokers have the right to not be persecuted through the use of inflammatory propaganda and deranged [eugenics] ideology.

Magnetic

Re: "What things in life matter most to you?"

(Anonymous)
I have an absolute right to smoke tobacco. Non smokers have an absolute right not to smoke tobacco. Whether antis like it or not doesn't concern me, that's all there is to it hence they are the ones permanently making the running.

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